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lady_bird

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PostSubject: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:24 am


I can't understand why there is two tier system entrance fee to visit the Twin Lakes .A foreign visitor has to pay higher entrance fee,while a filipino visitor has to pay less .Why does the Tourism office adopted this shameful system ? Isn't this system exposing the underlying prejudice of other races and nationality ?We have visited other countries too and haven't encountered such like this obvious practice of prejudice.Foreign visitors are already spending their money in this country and infact helping the economy by buying on services and food ,then why have to be discriminated in such way for both filipinos and foreigners.It's not the question of the amount difference of the entrance fee but the principle behind it is rotten ,I'm sorry .I hope the tourism office can explain this .
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Only a suggestion why can't they put all for one entrance fee ,and another optional fee donation for environmental causes and maintainance for the twin lakes.
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:11 pm

lady_bird,

naa ko nabasan run didto sa shout box sa NC, they are trying daw to fix or sort out kabahin ani imo thread.

i hope anytime soon ma fix ni para tsada ang reputation sa mga officials nga nagdumala ani tourist spot.

cheers,
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:22 pm

I think everyone should pay same entrance fee,perhaps with discount either to children or OAP (old age pensioners).
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:49 am

pickled_newt wrote:
I think everyone should pay same entrance fee,perhaps with discount either to children or OAP (old age pensioners).

seconded miss pickled_newt.

we just hope that the money paid by the tourist local or forieng would go to proper use, like improvements and maintenance of the spot, not to the BULSA!
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:51 am

shakoy wrote:
pickled_newt wrote:
I think everyone should pay same entrance fee,perhaps with discount either to children or OAP (old age pensioners).

seconded miss pickled_newt.

we just hope that the money paid by the tourist local or forieng would go to proper use, like improvements and maintenance of the spot, not to the BULSA!

Yep, this is the problem too,to monitor closely the revenues collected from the twin lakes and have a good audit system.I think this also has to do with the kind of people they employ.Even if the system is perfect but the people who man it are crooks or walang paki ,then everything goes back to square one.Negros oriental would never progress far enough if people have no vision and aspirations for the common good and the protection of the environment.
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:13 am

I received my subscribed copy of the Filipino observer over a week ago ,but didn't have time to go over the pages til today .What strongly caught my attention was this particular post in the reader's opinion section which has synonymous argument to this thread ,this time it's a foreign visitor who feels and sees the same way we do towards this discriminatory practice of two tier entrance fee.

Filipino Observer (London)
Letters to the Editor section
June-July '07 issue,page 15


Calling the Department of Tourism Representative in the UK and its ' Friend of the Philippines ' campaign

P10 PINOY vs P100 foreigners

I have just returned from the Philippines with my filipino wife.Whilst there,we visited a wild bird sanctuary on the small island of Olango,situated near Mactan island,Cebu.

When we arrived,a notice board displayed the entry fees as Php 10 pesos for filipinos and Php 100 pesos for foreigners.

I thought that was disgusting and discriminating.It was prejudicial and taking advantage.Even though I can afford the money,I did not go in on a principle.I felt that I helped the Philippine economy in many ways and was not prepared to pay this admittance fee.

Yes, I am a retired alien and fortunate enough to take my wife home each year when it is winter time in england.We stay in the Philippines for 4-5 months spending our money helping the economy.

I help my Philippine family when i can and have funded thre of our relatives to school and college.I have helped with funding for medical expenses and to think that I would have to pay more money than the people I took to the sanctuary is taking liberties.

I wonder if anyone else have this experience and if I had been a foreigner from one fo teh asian countries would they have top pay the higher fee.I think someone from the department of tourism should look into this and stop this from happening.

I this country that would not happen and the culprits would be punished.
I realise we may be fortunate than some of teh philippine people but many of the filipinos are more fortunate than I am.

I was very disappointed.


( Derek Lucas ) email

Editor's Note : Yes could not agree with you more,Mr Lucas.The practice you make mention is not good for the foreign visitor and worst of all - insulting to the very local visitor - in all respects.The least one can do,if only to suggest as is being done in this country - is to ask for 'donations' instead - with an equal appeal to all tourists- who no doubt will respond accordingly to the size of one's wallet.

email :editor@filipino-observer.com
Postal Address : PO box 20376,London NW11 OXY , UK
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:32 am

This is a bad thing and a bad experience for the foreigners and a bad decision from us. I am ashamed of it. Why? what is the reason behind all these? What is it that makes us greed of money. I am aware of this and makes me realize that because of this it makes me think that fairness and equality is gone. I am from Dumaguete but right now i am a foreigner of other country. I know that some of our asian neighbors do this but for me this is not reasonable and not in any ways natural filipino hospitality. Please!!!! Keep our traditions alive!!! the Filipino way.
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:58 am

Hi kewl,musta ? Nice to see u here Smile .It's true I am also ashamed of this practice.Being myself categorically a foreigner in this country I am living now,would not give justice if I am treated with similar discrimination here as to fees. I have benefited a lot being in this country (UK )where any kind of discrimination is a crime eg racism,ageism, gender discrimnation etc.I am enjoying same rights and free tuition fee same as any british born citizen working towards social work qualifications and still get my job's full pay. If this country act the same as the Philippine tourism office who couldn't put their acts together,I am probably out now and will be paying full expense of thousands of ús tution fee drained from my own pocket and always put on the margins from any opportunity.It's lucky that this country has supported the ideals of equal opportunities regardless of race,religion,language,age and sex with strong back up legislations that outlaw any discriminating acts. In this aspect the Philippines is lacking the grounds of defined guidelines and laws that makes discrimination illegal.
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:18 am

Hello Pickled Newt! Still Kicking here!!! and you how are you? Finally i decided to register in to be active also in this forum....Smile

Lucky for you. THat you have been in UK... Although our system is not that so good but we are very far from UK. Our system is incomparable to them.

Please be reasonable and fair enough!!!!! For the Philippine Tourism Office or PTO and to the Politicians i think this decisions are made without reviewing our values...

What is the objective of PTO? What are there guidelines on issuing such a policy that we have to fee them 10 times more? We invite foreigners to our land to come and visit. We say to them MABUHAY! But What is the assurance that they would keep coming back?

Please revise this issue and be reasonable.....Collect all Centavo's and they still can make millions.

Treat our Foreign Friends the way we treat each other the true Filipino way......PLEASE.....
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:41 pm

kumusta sa tanan,

kewl;) abay ko ani imo statement sa sintavos pero kung kanunay, madaghan pud, mura ug insik.



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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:00 pm

kewl:) wrote:
Hello Pickled Newt! Still Kicking here!!! and you how are you? Finally i decided to register in to be active also in this forum....Smile

Lucky for you. THat you have been in UK... Although our system is not that so good but we are very far from UK. Our system is incomparable to them.

Please be reasonable and fair enough!!!!! For the Philippine Tourism Office or PTO and to the Politicians i think this decisions are made without reviewing our values...

What is the objective of PTO? What are there guidelines on issuing such a policy that we have to fee them 10 times more? We invite foreigners to our land to come and visit. We say to them MABUHAY! But What is the assurance that they would keep coming back?


Please revise this issue and be reasonable.....Collect all Centavo's and they still can make millions.

Treat our Foreign Friends the way we treat each other the true Filipino way......PLEASE.....

Hi kewl

I am fine but panicking here going crazy scratch ,haven't done packing up and major shopping for presents back home,how i gonna do this,i don't know.It's late at night or early morning I am bl**dy washing several basket of clothes,a hell of work here kewl ,still have blooming ironing to do,cleaning etc in the last minute affraid affraid affraid

I agree with what you said "Treat our Foreign friends the way we treat each other the true Filipino way...."

If most foreign visitors feel the same way like Derek Lucas,they will loose out .Better put perhaps donation box or system where they can track down (not easily pocketed) money donations for the twin lakes.Donations come from the heart.If they will do a stronger and better campaign for environmental causes for the twin lakes,they might even get more donations mainly from foreign visitors or even from us 'displaced filipinos' that could surpass what they get from fee revenues.

.................


Musta sab shakoy. k lang nag panic sab,lupad karung sabado puhon pa Dgte .Can't wait.
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:12 pm

Pickled Newt!! Good luck in your way home......... Hay naku. Parang gusto ko na ring umuwi..Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:56 am

kewl:) wrote:
Pickled Newt!! Good luck in your way home......... Hay naku. Parang gusto ko na ring umuwi..Smile

daghan nata ani...samot na kita ko ani gipost ni booger na mga pagkaon sa Jos, den hisgot pud si pickle_newt ani mga pagkaon makatulo laway,,
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:04 am

OFF THE RECORD NA TO HA!!!! heheheheh!, ANyways pag pagkaon dili dyud ko moreklamo. HEHEHEHHEHE. Katong binakhaw!!! SUS!!! Ambot na lang....
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:44 am

hay kalame sa binakhaw paresan ug dinuguan,

pickel_newt, basun pud ug modoaw ka diri sa NC forum kung toa naka sa dgte, share dayun unsa kausbanan ug kalambuan, den maayo pud ug piktsur piktsur ka den imo ipost diri para mura sad mi naka vacation, hihihi
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:27 am

na ai joke ning mga nagpuyo dha nga forinirs sa pilipinas >>white price og right price
unta parehason kai makatabang man ang ilang kwarta dha sa pilipinas mao baya na nga ang gobyerno ga advertise nga kung mo retiro sa pilipinas na ...
ang dli nako masabtan fud sa mga forinirs nga nagpuyo dha sa dumaguete ... ang uban reklamador cguro ilang i compara ang pilipians sa ilang lugar >>>nya ang mga batasan fud usahay di makaon ug iro... wa tai labot unta ug usay ilang buhaton basta kabalo lang silang mo respetar sa atong lugar o pama agi o pang politica
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:42 am

oops na a ko nabasahan dre kabahin ug descriminasyon ... pinoy 2 pinoy
ad for jobs >>> wanted sales girl college graduate young good personality
sa hospital >>>ug wa kai i ka bayad dli ka ka sulod sa ospital
dli ka apil kai pobre ang familia o wala sa alta sosyedad
daghan pa oi ... kamo na fud ug naa moi i ka sumpay ani
dli ning mga butanga malikayan sa pilipinas >>kining ni langyaw ta makabalo o maka angay tas atong lugar kai fair man ang tratamiento sa isig ka tawo... guikan sa sweldo/medical/skul etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:32 am

di lang trabaho na nahitabo bisag ikaw na mismong taga Dgte pag tugpa sa eroplano unya sakay ug pedikab ang charge sa imo sangku sa langit pero ang tunay mga biente o trenta lang unta ang charge. Unta ang administrator diha sa airport magbutang ug kanang legal nga airport transport para way mailad sa nga mga turista (lokal o poringer). Nasulti ni naku kay sa aku-a mismo nahitabo, sus hapit mataktak akong brief pag ingon kung pila ang pasahe (from airport lang hangtud Piapi Silliman village 2 kagatus ang charge) nakaingon na lang ko sa dryber nga di man naku palitun imo pedicab 'noy.
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:13 am

you are right Shakatak....The trycicle drivers should be taken out of their license.. Because of overpricing. From the airport to Batinguel area it cost me 100 pesos. Men i cannot believe these drivers do that. I was only working in manila back then......How much more today. I would always bargain... If not when i come to dumaguete and arrive in the airport. I usually take my baggages and sacrifice myself to walk outside the airport until the national road....These people also are taking advantage and what they think is that we are rich already.......not a good thing you know.
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:18 am

Shakatak wrote:
di lang trabaho na nahitabo bisag ikaw na mismong taga Dgte pag tugpa sa eroplano unya sakay ug pedikab ang charge sa imo sangku sa langit pero ang tunay mga biente o trenta lang unta ang charge. Unta ang administrator diha sa airport magbutang ug kanang legal nga airport transport para way mailad sa nga mga turista (lokal o poringer). Nasulti ni naku kay sa aku-a mismo nahitabo, sus hapit mataktak akong brief pag ingon kung pila ang pasahe (from airport lang hangtud Piapi Silliman village 2 kagatus ang charge) nakaingon na lang ko sa dryber nga di man naku palitun imo pedicab 'noy.
lol! makatawa man ta naing imong post Shakatak... tinood imong sulti baya...kana fud moingon ang driver nga ikaw lay mag igo ..nya tagaan ug plete mag wild kai kulang ra kuno lol! ambot ba ani oi mga tindera mga suplada morag tag iya...di ka tagdon lol pero ug forinir ang mopalit ai na morag mga korek..pareho man ta tang pinoy nga na ai ikapalit ... hehehhe sila dagway ang baligya hehehee joke ra unta dli masuko ang mga tindera ... dili tanan hehehehhee have a gud afternoon all lol! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:41 am

Sa true lang mga kaigsu-unan di lang sa tugpahan ug eroplano hasta sa pantalan parehas ug mga kalaki ang buhat sa mga dryber. Kung mag promote ang Dumaguete goberment ingon sa turismo kini unta ang usa sa ilang priority. Sus na-a na sa poder nangawagtang naman sila matud pa sa mga tagalog "tutulog-tulog sa pansitan".
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:10 am

ambot bitaw nganong ing ana nang mga tawo ... kabalo man ta tang mo hunahuna kai na may tipping system sa atoa .. anad man ta ug bilin .. pero ka nang konsensyahun ka kabahin sa ilang kinabuhi morag lain na na... ampo na lang ko nga ma usub ba...
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:45 pm

maayong adlaw sa tanan,

pa check attendance lang ni ako kay murag absent man ko pila days,
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:52 pm

nganong absen man ka Laughing maayong buntag sa tanan dre...anadir dey na pod ta ug posting moray lingaw lingaw nato ...salamat sa NC
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PostSubject: Re: Foreigners pay more,pinoys pay less for Twin lakes.   Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:36 pm

absent maring jazmin kay busy kaayo ko pangahoy sa kabukiran

ikaw diha? unsa many imo kalingawan or ka bisihan?
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